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Admin Meeting 2018.03.11

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-Sierra-

Merciless
because its easier to be considered active. i know the system very well even though i wasnt here for a long time. getting ban rights gives you the opportunity to remain extremely ''active'' in the bans book just by keeping your addon on and approving the bans. puts your name into the wall of shame on each single ban even though someone else made the effort to get the fu*ckers banned. that is why its a lot more simple. not sure if youre getting my point. some of you guys might.
Thats true
 

-Sierra-

Merciless
And yes if we consider all advantages you get ban status is very very important since people with no free time can proof they are active by accepting the bans from their phone or pc at work.... Limiting people to stay KR mean limiting their will to act since they have to play even if they dont have time to do so to prove they are banning and that they are active.... Now @Hybrid Im talking about promotion if I would ever arrive on BR status I would have a way to prove my self active since Im working 7 days of 7 even sunday I do full time... So yes it would be easier for me to take my phone and accept people bans
 

Hybrid

#4iS, 4.5 inches on good days.
Game Admin
Warteam Member
because its easier to be considered active. i know the system very well even though i wasnt here for a long time.
the hardest working people of the community are the members and the kickrighted. they work to get people banned, and the BR mostly (NOT SAYING ALL) just press the button. and that stresses some poeple out. by getting br, people would start pressing buttons and stop taking demos. so yeah in that way its a lot more simple.
Thats true
If you think thats true, you should remain kr tbh. You are responsible for the bans you approve, you have to check every demo some member with less experience uploads (usually longer demos).
 

Spoma

The Rebellious Deserter
Donator
If you think thats true, you should remain kr tbh. You are responsible for the bans you approve, you have to check every demo some member with less experience uploads (usually longer demos).
as i said. it is an explanation why people want the br so much. not saying everyone acts like that but there were a lot of guys acting exactly as i described.
it is only natural for people to strive to work less and get recognized more.
 

Ardens

Arma Guy
Staff member
Retired Admin
If not getting the promotion you were hoping for makes you openly complain and become bitter towards the admin team, then you really need to reconsider why you perform the duties of a JFF member. Do you keep the servers clean and orderly because you want a promotion or because you love the clan you're in and want to see it improve in every way possible? If you're thinking to yourself, "Whoa is me, I've done my time and I'm still not promoted", then know that you are not the first to go through a long period of time being the same rank, and you certainly won't be the last. There shouldn't be an open disagreement about promotion choices every time an admin meeting is posted, if anything, these useless quarrels prove the point of the decisions that were made.

If you are angry or upset, please just message an Admin (or multiple Admins) so that we can properly address the concern in the next admin meeting.
 

Spoma

The Rebellious Deserter
Donator
If you are angry or upset, please just message an Admin (or multiple Admins) so that we can properly address the concern in the next admin meeting.
This. ^

And if I may notice, there wasnt any quarrel, the guys were insulted by a poor choice of words. I doubt any of them like to be classified as UNTRUSTWORTHY. :)

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Those issues that you are having sierra are present since the beginning of time. you simply have to wait until a BR is only to approve those bans. about The thing that Hyb. said.. that he deserves to stay KR. he wants to help more by not having to wait for someone to click a button. That is not exactly a reason to judge him. afterall he means good.
 
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Blade

Hopeless case
Staff member
Game Admin
Donator
because its easier to be considered active. i know the system very well even though i wasnt here for a long time. getting ban rights gives you the opportunity to remain extremely ''active'' in the bans book just by keeping your addon on and approving the bans. puts your name into the wall of shame on each single ban even though someone else made the effort to get the fu*ckers banned. that is why its a lot more simple. not sure if youre getting my point. some of you guys might.
You forgot about one very important thing that is also getting recorded: Playtime
 

Horrow

New member
I am surprised that I got KR back :3 thou to be frankly honest I am happy about it :3

Now regarding me being labeled active that I guess means just this dude is coming back alive ? I don't see any other interpretation of it, thou it is up to you to decide ? (BTW I have been pretty much less active for a very long time I do know that and it is not something I deny)

Me being AFK yes sure, it is true maybe I licked every old guys favorite place too good to not be kicked ? thou based on what I read/ heard the kicking system changed ? You guys know better since I have just came back alive slowly and that's because of help from someone. I have thought about quitting JFF more than 10 times and waited for the admin meeting which labeled me Kicked due to inactivity while my inactivity is not related to JFF nor anything of sorts as some people know I live in Iraq and I lived near the parts which had wars no complaining, but my priority was to get money for a day which I might need to run away to another city or place so with all do respect I dont care if someone doesn't like me being labeled promoted :D :3

On the other hand my word for the new/ not much familiar JFF members, based on my knowledge and what I saw in the community, there is a reason which someone might not be promoted (if that is what you care for) maybe it is the behavior or lack of self controlling actions from some members.
People used to kick people for real reason, I do know some had struggle even when they were KR, during one particular experience one kicked someone without giving proper warnings toward the one who insulted or glitched and they instantly kicked now with every rank comes some responsibility and whenever your rank increases you are expected to be calmer and handle situations better, I do not know what happened during admin meeting nor do I care much because those guys know general overview of the situation within JFF, but I do know I have proved myself worthy of that title (KR) maybe I was inactive and just started to breath again but I do believe I have proved myself a long time ago at an age.

Last words:
Thanks to all the sexy people for being happy about my return ( and the promotion :3 ) I will milk you all one day, thou you are a lot and it will take time for me to milk you all, stand in a line.

Spoma it feels real good to see you here :3

And if its bothering someone, Admins can take away my KR till I prove myself (a year if you guys want, but I still can do pretty much what other admins can do but with a little more time, its just a !uinfo/!finger then give IP to someone not much more than that)

And yea if I feel I will be inactive again, promise I will give my leave request straight away :* (if anyone is interested in me being afk again) :3


<3
!milk all
 

-Sierra-

Merciless
If not getting the promotion you were hoping for makes you openly complain and become bitter towards the admin team, then you really need to reconsider why you perform the duties of a JFF member. Do you keep the servers clean and orderly because you want a promotion or because you love the clan you're in and want to see it improve in every way possible? If you're thinking to yourself, "Whoa is me, I've done my time and I'm still not promoted", then know that you are not the first to go through a long period of time being the same rank, and you certainly won't be the last. There shouldn't be an open disagreement about promotion choices every time an admin meeting is posted, if anything, these useless quarrels prove the point of the decisions that were made.

If you are angry or upset, please just message an Admin (or multiple Admins) so that we can properly address the concern in the next admin meeting.
Yooo Arma guy you are alive thats interesting.... @Blade just mentioned play time huuuuh where is yours inexistent? Or there are a new thing going on other games count as JFF playtime. Getting active 24/7 on forum without answering a single thread make you senior damnnn I want to be senior either (pure sarcasm) or being active player once every few years it even better(more sarcasm). Only thing you are really active its when admin meeting is on to poop over people that kick others with special reasons like you did last time on me... Try to be more active on server and look how some people behave then jugde you G-rated master. And yes you saif above contact admin bla bla bla we will discuss it on next meeting...noooo you would not even mention it on next meeting cuz your senior office chair is way too confortable to discuss problems common mortarls have here. Please lets finaly stop with fairy tail for kids and lets act, shall we... By the way all of this is not an insult toward you they are just a simple fact that you might accept and might not.. If you think this is way too much feel free to kick me out of jff and just write me a message and I will give you all my IPs so you can ban them both in game and forum I will be more than happy to provide them to you...

EDIT: I might be quiet but I notice many things
 
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Spoma

The Rebellious Deserter
Donator
Yooo Arma guy you are alive thats interesting.... @Blade just mentioned play time huuuuh where is yours inexistent? Or there are a new thing going on other games count as JFF playtime. Getting active 24/7 on forum without answering a single thread make you senior damnnn I want to be senior either (pure sarcasm) or being active player once every few years it even better(more sarcasm). Only thing you are really active its when admin meeting is on to poop over people that kick others with special reasons like you did last time on me... Try to be more active on server and look how some people behave then jugde you G-rated master. And yes you saif above contact admin bla bla bla we will discuss it on next meeting...noooo you would not even mention it on next meeting cuz your senior office chair is way too confortable to discuss problems common mortarls have here. Please lets finaly stop with fairy tail for kids and lets act, shall we... By the way all of this is not an insult toward you they are just a simple fact that you might accept and might not.. If you think this is way too much feel free to kick me out of jff and just write me a message and I will give you all my IPs so you can ban them both in game and forum I will be more than happy to provide them to you...
wow. chill. its just an ONLINE COMMUNITY. not real life. No jobs, wives, children or money. no need to get agitated this much. most of these people dont even exist. take micks, jennifer all rocks aliases for example. youre going ghost hunting man. :')
 

-Sierra-

Merciless
wow. chill. its just an ONLINE COMMUNITY. not real life. No jobs, wives, children or money. no need to get agitated this much. most of these people dont even exist. take micks, jennifer all rocks aliases for example. youre going ghost hunting man. :')
Dont worry girl I just told they truth and with that message I finished all what a had to tell... If they understand what Ive said they would say "hey he might be right lets threat everyone in the same way with no difference of their rank here" if not they would continue to do whay they've done until now.... On next meeting I would know my answer and I would act as its right
 

Vlado

Game Admin
Staff member
Game Admin
Donator
Cmon sierra,go pm,member forum or addon for this talk,please
 

-Sierra-

Merciless
Lets say something nice admin + that are really active are Thundy (fixing all our bugs a crap we do) Sammy on JFF server 3 and Element on JFF zombie... Always when I open CP or Addon I find them online thats how real admin + should behave and give nice example to others on real meaning of being Admin+
 

Hybrid

#4iS, 4.5 inches on good days.
Game Admin
Warteam Member
I kind of understand your point sierra, but creating this mess is not justified at least for this month. You had 3 bans from febuary to now.

Yes, most seniors dont play anymore. some even just got this rank to not get downranked by the new rule.
But if you really want to make a change, think of a better strategy than ranting here.
I gave up on it, see where it got me.

//edit: Ardens, do you really want to piss off the plebs even more?
 

ElementX

Braindead
Game Admin
I read talks about dedication, hard work, play hours, long demos, making bans, removing bans, proving the trust, bone braking effort, and i have done it all AND i still dont get a promotion. I am lvl 4 for almost 3 years now and they pass me over every time! I mean, what does a guy have to do? In a moment of weakness i even sent naked pics to few members of admin team hoping that that would close the deal, but nothing happened. I felt mad and exposed (they were really spicy pics). But over the years i got to know these guys (admins) and i really do respect them, they do some crazy shiit in the background that most of us dont even know about and they see things. These guys have seen the worst moments in jff and they know how to deal with them, i mean we are all still here cause of it, they dont just flip the coin and say he gets it and he doesnt (well, there was that one time Gis got promoted)!

Sooo, for the god knows how many times, there is a reason for Every action admins take, we consider all the aspects and we act accordingly. Sooo, no need to point fingers anywhere other except in to a first mirror you can see, have a close look and think a little, do some research, check the wall of shame (cod4 AND cod5), type some admin names and see how many bans they made as a reporter before they were approving them > A HUGE HINT! Maybe then you will get the picture why some members got the br so fast and why others got it a bit later, and why some didnt. Number of bans, quality of demos, responsibility, attitude > things we consider!

Maybe i didnt get promoted cause they want me to stay motivated, try to get the best of me. Im 34 freaking years old and im still learning things here, im still working to better myself, im open to suggestions, and i may do things my way, but do it just the same. If i just get what i want, maybe ill realize i didnt really need it, who knows :confused:
 

Spoma

The Rebellious Deserter
Donator
I read talks about dedication, hard work, play hours, long demos, making bans, removing bans, proving the trust, bone braking effort, and i have done it all AND i still dont get a promotion. I am lvl 4 for almost 3 years now and they pass me over every time! I mean, what does a guy have to do? In a moment of weakness i even sent naked pics to few members of admin team hoping that that would close the deal, but nothing happened. I felt mad and exposed (they were really spicy pics). But over the years i got to know these guys (admins) and i really do respect them, they do some crazy shiit in the background that most of us dont even know about and they see things. These guys have seen the worst moments in jff and they know how to deal with them, i mean we are all still here cause of it, they dont just flip the coin and say he gets it and he doesnt (well, there was that one time Gis got promoted)!

Sooo, for the god knows how many times, there is a reason for Every action admins take, we consider all the aspects and we act accordingly. Sooo, no need to point fingers anywhere other except in to a first mirror you can see, have a close look and think a little, do some research, check the wall of shame (cod4 AND cod5), type some admin names and see how many bans they made as a reporter before they were approving them > A HUGE HINT! Maybe then you will get the picture why some members got the br so fast and why others got it a bit later, and why some didnt. Number of bans, quality of demos, responsibility, attitude > things we consider!

Maybe i didnt get promoted cause they want me to stay motivated, try to get the best of me. Im 34 freaking years old and im still learning things here, im still working to better myself, im open to suggestions, and i may do things my way, but do it just the same. If i just get what i wont, maybe ill realize i didnt really need it, who knows :confused:
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